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THIRD-DEGREE GRÆD Decibels Mix Vol. 1 ●●●●● The identity of this Glasgow producer remains a mystery, but his tape on Place No Blame is a heady affair, collaging performances he made using traditional ceramic percussion from Capadoccia in Turkey, trumpet and voice. Steeped in degraded tape murk, these tracks are suggestive of a darkside take on Ornette Coleman’s collaborations with the Master Musicians of Joujouka, via the dubby polyrhythms of Mark Ernestus’s Ndagga Rhythm Force.

BYRNE LUKI The Parts / Empty Arms ●●●●● Following last year’s tape on GLARC, this double A sided 8” single on Sonido Polifonico offers the fi rst fruits of Luki aka Lucy Duncan’s collaboration with producer Micah Rivers. Crystalline acoustic guitar and lambent synths grace ‘The Parts’, and detuned piano bringing a woozy blue tinge to the torch song ‘Empty Arms’. Duncan’s remarkable voice comes through more clearly than ever, extemporising in her upper range like an English Mary Margaret O’Hara then knocking us out with her alto.

David Byrne talks to Claire Sawers about life after Talking Heads

collaborations, creativity and How Music Works IRMA VEP Embarrassed Landscape ●●●●● Irma Vep’s ‘King Kong’ is a suitably epic 10-minute burner, with the modal infl ections of Edwin Stevens’ guitar touching on Saharan rock and Turkish psych. Its locked groove recalls Leeds underground legends Vibracathedral Orchestral with dbh’s violin adding a touch of Thai molam. From there, the album takes a turn into indie, psych and folk rock. ‘I Do What I Want’ takes Syd Barrett to 1980s New Zealand, while ‘The Feeling Is Gone’ nails the sound of tripped-out bikers channelling the Byrds.

passionately, as a man still madly in love with music. Electronic music, world music, folk song, religious chants, ballet scores the ritual, the craft, the urge to dance along while cooking in his kitchen Byrne’s refrain is clear he can’t get enough.

COMPILATIONS AND GOOD CAUSES ‘A large part of my life is tied to something that is completely ephemeral,’ he writes in the book. ‘You can’t touch music, it exists only at the moment it is being apprehended. And yet it can profoundly alter how we view the world. It’s powerful stuff.’

Besides innovation, a big part of Byrne’s enthusiasm comes from collaborations as he playfully points out, Pitchfork once said he’d collaborate with anyone for a bag of Doritos. So what does he look for in a collaborator?

‘I wouldn’t want someone that does what I do,’ he answers. ‘That would be redundant. You’re not going to get anything new out of that. You want someone who understands what you do, but is coming from a different place. Then you fi nd the connection between the two. I love getting out of my comfort zone. It’s an incredible thrill when I learn something and it starts to work.’

So, as a multi-disciplined artist, with what he self-diagnoses as ‘very mild Asperger’s’, is keeping himself on his toes as much a part of the appeal as creating something new?

‘Yeah, I like to keep myself interested I’ll kind of throw myself into some area that I don’t completely know or understand, that I’m not adept at, so I’m forced to swim in order to stay afl oat. There’s a good feeling that comes from that.’

More Luki (pictured left)! She appears on More Womxn’s MWxIWD, a great new compilation in aid of Sisters Uncut. Featuring Going Underground favourite Horse Whisperer, Solidarity Tapes Vol 1: End The Hostile Environment raises funds for grassroots migrant solidarity groups MASS Action, Project Play and All African Women’s Group. Glasgow’s Beth Gripps aka Caroline McKenzie contributes to Heal The People, Heal The Land a compilation and zine bundle from Scottish label A Beautiful Idea. All proceeds go to the Unist’ot’en Camp Legal Fund in their struggle against the TransCanada Coastal GasLink pipeline. When he’s not studying music’s patterns, communicating with other music makers (in myriad different ways), or jump-starting some new music genre into life, he’s also a fan of the simple bit listening to it. ‘I like to listen in a concentrated way that’s the best way to take it in. I’ll put on headphones while cycling or jogging through the park. I usually sing along I hope I’m going fast enough that no one can hear me.’

While others bemoan the ‘death of the music industry’, Byrne stays steadfastly on the other side. ‘There’s more good music being made now than ever before,’ he states simply.

Music For Trans rights launched with a solidarity event at Glasgow’s CCA in March. The collective declare, ‘we’re all kinds of everyone, with two things in common: we love music, and we love our trans and non-binary family. We’re here to say: equality is for everyone.’ They’re planning a gig in the coming months, so keep an eye on their Twitter and Instagram @musictransright for updates. It’s the short version of what his book explains over 300-plus pages. In his 60th year, and fourth decade as an artist, can Byrne ever see a time when he’ll get bored of music? The answer comes with a laugh. ‘It’s just not gonna happen.’

How Music Works is out now, published by Canongate. Read more from David Byrne at journal.davidbyrne.com. Editat. Enitatium sedit volorestiunt laboressum a comnis a dolupta tiunt.

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W here’s just one small caveat before The List gets the green light on an interview with David Byrne. One thing Mr Byrne most defi nitely won’t be talking about, comes the polite but

fi rm message, is Talking Heads.

From anyone else, a request to not talk about the single biggest thing they are famous for might seem churlish, a bit awkward; the uncooperative demand of a pop diva. But coming from a shape-shifting polymath such as himself, coming from David Byrne, it makes perfect sense. Byrne’s CV reveals a man constantly on the lookout for new ground to break, new skills to master, new projects to complete; the polar opposite of laurel-resting. Yeah sure, David Byrne was a singer in one of the most infl uential new wave pop bands of the 70s and 80s, whose hits (‘This Must Be the Place’, ‘Psycho Killer’, ‘Once in a Lifetime’, insert your own favourite here) still sound fresh as daisies nearly 30 years later. But he’s also been a fi lm soundtrack composer, bike rack designer, photographer, illustrator, writer of non-fi ction, record label runner, visual artist . . . Byrne has built a career out of creative ADHD, and thrived on it, so it stands to reason why would he want to get misty-eyed and revisit old ground?

‘Yeah, I declined an interview with Mojo for that reason,’ Byrne confesses, leaving only a second before letting out a laugh, something he does a lot during the chat. He’s in his New York offi ce, waiting on a lunchtime delivery of sushi, and he’s in good spirits. ‘I have no embarrassment about Talking Heads stuff, of course I don’t. It’s just there’s an awful lot of other things going on, especially at the moment. I thought, “Oh god, they’re probably gonna want to masticate the past. Mull things over somehow.” I would just rather talk about other stuff.’

It’s safe to say Byrne is a fan of forward motion. Right now, he’s being propelled forward in several directions. He’s just put out the excellent Love This Giant, a record made with fellow New Yorker St Vincent, real name Annie Clark, and backed by a brass band. He’s also writing music for theatre, designing more bicycle racks this time alphabet-inspired ones for the Brooklyn Academy of Music and prepping himself for a book tour. Oh yeah, he’s written a massive book too. How Music Works is music-geek heaven. It’s Byrne’s very enjoyable alternative to a cheesy popstar memoir a sort of intelligent storybook for music fans crossed with a manual for emerging artists. In it, he examines music from several angles as a recording artist (with anecdotes about Brian Eno’s unconventional but clever methods; and their pots and pan percussion on joint album My Life in the Bush of Ghosts). As a businessman (with a chapter dissecting the motives behind money-making from art, his own record label, Luaka Bop, plus the practicalities of touring/ making CDs/ selling t-shirts), and most